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MLP: FIM - Without Magic - Part 1 (Edited) by PerfectBlue97 MLP: FIM - Without Magic - Part 1 (Edited) by PerfectBlue97
EDIT: I've had a some people react quite badly to this comic. Some even found it a little distressing that I've taken Twilight's horn away (Wounded veterans have been been mentioned in the comments).

When I first wrote this comic, my vision was that this was an academic exercise set by Celestia to help Twilight to better relate to other ponies, as well as to better understand herself. So I've updated the text to clearly state that this fact.

I've also tidied up the page a little. Still the original vectors, though.

This edit means that some of the following pages might sound a little odd.

Original Description

I know that it doesn't look much, but this is my most ambitious Pony comic to date. I've tried to use as many original components as I can (Inkscape and Photoshop), but you might recognize some old favorites from other (more talented) authors.

This comic was inspired by the episode Winter Wrap-Up, where Twilight tries to get by without using her Magic, but in the end she uses it even though she isn't supposed to.

Princess Celestia sent Twilight to Ponyville in order to get to know other ponies, and to discover life outside of her books and magic, but in most episodes she seems to solve problems using books and magic.

Twilight solved three simple problems with magic, that any Earth Pony could have solved using their hooves. She used her magic instinctively.

Princess Celestia wants her to find a way to do things without using magic, and to see things from other pony's perspectives.

She's not being cruel (and this is supposed to be the "real" Celestia). She's trying to help Twilight to explore the other things that make Twilight Sparkle who she is.

Anything that isn't directly attributed to somebody is either based on an image from the show's advertizing material for the show, or is scratch drawn (Some things are a combination of the two). I didn't use General Zoi's Pony Creator for any of this (yay).

As you can see from the “Cyclops” pony in frame 7, I'm still getting to grips with Inkscape, and Ponies in general.

Twilight Sparkle's Cutie Mark is by Grendo11 (grendo11.deviantart.com/art/Tw…)

Part 2: perfectblue97.deviantart.com/a…
Part 3: perfectblue97.deviantart.com/a…
Part 4: perfectblue97.deviantart.com/a…
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Frame 1, Scootaloo's expression is based on this image (bobthelurker.deviantart.com/ar…). Frame 3 and 4: Background (gameguy001.deviantart.com/art/…). Frame 5: Rainbow Dash is Angry Rainbow Dash by 90Sigma (90sigma.deviantart.com/art/Ang…). Derpy's Cutie Mark is by Ooklah (ooklah.deviantart.com/art/Cuti…). Frame 6: The background is from the show itself. Frame 7: Background is Library Upper Floors (Twilight's Bedroom) by DaringDashie (daringdashie.deviantart.com/ar…). Frame 8: Sorry, I'm being really lazy here. This is from the show itself. I wonder how Celestia is writing that letter without using her magic (no glow?). Frame 9: This one is based on a couple of different images. Including Veggie55's Rainy Days (veggie55.deviantart.com/art/Ra…) and Library Upper Floors (Twilight's Bedroom) by DairingDashie (daringdashie.deviantart.com/ar…). I used them both as a base. One for the window and the other for the curtain, along with some tweaks. Also based on the original image from the show. Frame 10 and 11: Same as above. Frame 12: Same as Frame 8. Frame 13 and 14: Same as Frame 9.
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bensacche Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2016  Student Filmographer
AWESOME!!! :D
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askwasteali Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2016
Ali: AHHH COME ON! At least give her wings you du***bag. How it feel I take your immortality.
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XxmaskedponyxX Featured By Owner 3 days ago
Correction, it has been debunked in the Journal of the Pony sisters that Celestia and Luna aren't immortal, but age differently then other ponies.
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Supafoxxeh Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
I've read this comic before and I can't remember what happened...

     ...but Princess Celestia, I must say, in my most sincere respect...

     ...and with the well-being of all inhabitants of your world in mind...

     ...I think this is the most stupid, stupid, STUPID thing you have
ever casually done in Equestrian history. Without Unicorn magic,
Equestria would have probably been incinerated by dragons or died
of dysentery and disease by now, and without the abilities of
especially talented Earth Ponies, Unicorns, Pegasi, and Alicorns
throughout history, Equestria would probably look like the heap
of scorched sh*t its inhabitants died wallowing around in.
     Twilight Sparkle has already earned her cutie mark and should
be able to continue improving life in Equestria to the best of her
exceptional magical abilities without your self-righteous interference.
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PerfectBlue97 Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
In her defense, Celestia didn't envision Twilight overeating like this.

Celestia thought that Twilight would have her cutie mark back in a couple of days.

When I started writing this, that was the plan.

The entire span of this comic was going to be about 15 pages, covering 3 days.
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Supafoxxeh Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
PerfectBlue, this comic is your ultimate destiny. Through it, you receive immortality.
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Supafoxxeh Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
     ...This is the one thing about Celestia that makes her the least favorite of the princesses,
if we exclude Twilight Sparkle, the "Princess of Friendship" and "Queen of Characters Who
Have Become So Dominant and Uninteresting that I Try to Ignore Them."
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guardmn Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2015
This is gonna be interesting.
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SpykeTheHedgehog Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2015  Student Digital Artist
:icontrollestia3plz: Umad Twi?
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Ajedi32 Featured By Owner Edited Dec 19, 2015
I don't know, this seems kinda weird to me. It'd be like taking away Rainbow's ability to fly or Rarity's ability to design dresses and saying it's to help them "find out what else makes you special". Sure there are other things that make her unique, but magic is Twilight's special talent, and there's nothing wrong with her relying on it to solve her problems. (Though obviously raw magical talent can't solve every problem. Magic Duel, taught that problem pretty well.) Honestly this feels like something Discord would do, not Celestia.

I also find it a bit hard to believe that Celestia has the ability to remove ponies' horns and cutie marks via letter. Starlight would have loved that ability. ;-)

I think the premise isn't actually that bad, but the way it was set up definitely could have been done better. At the very least I think a bit more build-up beforehand and less abruptness in the way Celestia handled things would have helped a lot here.

But whatever, this comic is three years old and I'm sure you've improved lots since you started. Maybe I'll give it a shot...
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PerfectBlue97 Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Imagine if a young Rarity started buying in pre printed dress making patterns, and used them all of the time.

She might make her dresses faster, but she wouldn't improve as a fashion designer. She'd just be making the same dresses over and over again using different colors of fabrics.

Wouldn't it make sense for her mentor to take away the dress making patterns, and to set her a task that involved making something from scratch?

I basically needed a premise and an execution that I could fit on a single page, without having to draw too many complicated scenes. I'd probably put it across three pages if I were drawing it again.
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LupinKurt Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2015  Student General Artist
wow, celestia is a bigger d*ck than I thought
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JamieLucas Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2015
Dude, she gets the chance to learn what makes her special besides her magic. It does make perfect sense and I think that twilight would have acted upon such differently than she did.
Although Celestia is better than Luna any day, I know that Luna is just a spoiled brat little sister. I would have expected Luna to do the same thing, actually.
Honestly, I don't know why you get so riled up and defensive over such pony nonsense. I don't even like the show because the "fans" have ruined it so much for me. With 'shipping' and trying to make something in the story out of nothing, or hardly anything.
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LupinKurt Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2015  Student General Artist
actually if you keep reading the comic you find luna is so opposed to the idea she breifly stuggles with her nightmare moon side over what to do
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JamieLucas Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2015
Yeah, but that's not the real her, just a fan made-up idea. I'm not honestly interested in ponies anymore though. I'm more into the anime, it's way better. No offence ponies.
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darkshinyumbreon Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2015  Student Traditional Artist
Well, this is a comic, It's not purrfect okay :iconlupinkurt: ? Also, what kind of art do u like? I wanna be prepared 4 the art trade.
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LupinKurt Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2015  Student General Artist
I just have a REALLY big thing against celestia. Sketch refuses to even bow and obey her its so big. (and yes sketch CAN take on celestia and win. it hasn't come to that but its simple math. Sketch can beat Lunar, Lunar defeated chrystalis one on one in the war of equestria, and via show canon we know at that level of magic chrystalis can take celestia out in one blow. honestly she's not as tough as she looks)
as for art I'm a big tf fan if thats what you mean but I'm fin with traditional or digital really.
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darkshinyumbreon Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2015  Student Traditional Artist
Oh, ok
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DaviDark-TheGunter Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Apple Bloom the second
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Eagle1Division Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Interesting idea, but it seems a little bit of a stretch for Celestia to do that to her, but more than a little bit of a stretch without her having to sign something for consent or something :p
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PerfectBlue97 Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's actually pretty common in comics and cartoons for a mentor to tell a character to fight without their super powers, or technology.
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Eagle1Division Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Maybe, but suddenly taking it away from her without even asking for her consent doesn't really strike me as something Celestia would do...
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PerfectBlue97 Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
She sent her to Ponyville without asking, and set her up to Fight Nightmare Moon without asking.

She turned her into a Princess without asking, too.

Celestia isn't a very asky kinda princess.
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Eagle1Division Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
She asked her if she'd like to attend her "school for gifted unicorns" when she was just a filly.

Assigning her to supervise the Summer Sun Celebration and make friends is considerably less invasive and more benign than robbing her of her cutie mark, what her cutie mark and identity are, and one of her own body parts.

Assigning your student with a task is considerably different from forcibly removing their hands (manipulators that are an integral part of them).
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PerfectBlue97 Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
When you get right down to it, Celestia basically planned Twilight's entire life out for her from when she was a foal.

From the day the Celestia made Twilight her personal pupil, every significant event was pretty much part of a master plan to make her a Princess. Twilight didn't even know that it was possible to become an Alicon, so she certainly didn't consent to it in advance.

It might be normal for a teacher to assign a student a task, but a lot of Celestia's tasks all have ulterior motives. When was the last time that one of your professors sent you to organize a summer festival with the full knowledge that you'd end up using arcane magic to fight their super powered megalomaniac sister?

Celestia constantly manipulated Twilight by putting her into dangerous situations, with the ultimate aim that she's become an Alicorn. Pretty much the only exceptions were the fight against Discord (Which Only Twilight could do because she was an element bearer), and Tirek (Which Twilight decided to do). Everything else was a stepping stone along the way.

If you include the Canon from Equestria Girls, and the comics into it, it gets even murkier. Twilight is basically just a replacement for Sunset Shimmer.  A sufficiently powerful Unicorn who came along just after Sunset stormed out.

Besides, it's actually quite normal for a teacher to get a student to do something "old school" to make them stronger in one way or another. Like a basketball coach forcing a player to use their off hand for practice matches in order to strengthen their overall skills.
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Eagle1Division Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
I still don't find that to be quite enough to convince me that Celestia would send a letter that de-horns, and especially de-cutie-marks Twilight without any warning or consent...

Celestia didn't even force Twilight to fight Nightmare Moon for that matter - she merely prepared her for her coming by lining her up to make friends, then Twilight was the one who chose to fight NMM.
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PerfectBlue97 Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I needed a way to de-magic Twilight in a way that Twilight wouldn't question, and which didn't involve a villain doing it.

It also needed to fit on one page, and not involve much drawing. This is what I cam up with.

This was my first attempt at a pony comic over 3 pages long, and I'd never drawn a multi-page comic using manually drawn characters before (Most of my previous comics were drawn using a Pony Generator, or a 3D rendering engine).

I might have drawn it in a different way had I done it today, but that was a long time ago now.
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MeepsterX Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Who cares? The point of these comics are that they didn't really happen, it's just an idea someone had. They can make the characters as OOC as they want.
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Eagle1Division Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
They can, but then it's no longer an accurate rendition of a "what if" scenario of the characters aren't responding in-character :p

Overall this particular point is only kind of minor, but still...
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bronyponyanimations Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2015  Hobbyist Filmographer
Now she can hang with Applebloom
Applebloom (nothing) plz 
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BlackWhite101 Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
not anymore......
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MargonaTheFox Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2015  Student Digital Artist
Me : .... *Packs up saddle bags and heads to canterlot* *Knocks on the castle door*
Celestia : *Answers* Hello?
Me : Yes um...Princess Celestia...I've received a report that you used your magic to strip a unicorn of her horn, magic, and cutie mark.
Celestia : Yes.
Me : Care to tell why?
Celestia : I think she needs to learn how to do things without magic.
Me : And did you...ask for her consent before-hoof?
Celestia : Well...no...
Me : ...You're under arrest for ill use of alicorn magic.
Celestia : Wh-What?!
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PerfectBlue97 Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
To paraphrase something that was actually said by a world leader: "If the Princess of Equestria does it, then it's not illegal"
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ChocoloverXXOX Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
That's not fair.
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Boreasos Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2015
I have to agree with many others here, this is a downright cruel thing for Celestia to do. I mean, yeah, it's just a contrived plot point to get a story started, but it's still a horrendous thing to do.
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Pokebreeder25 Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2015  Student Traditional Artist
You should change the color of your body, your mane so that ponies don't reconize her
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Pokebreeder25 Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2015  Student Traditional Artist
You should 
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Kartoffelkamm Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
earth pony blank flanks. the lowest layer of equestrians society (totally not making fun of Apple Bloom) :)
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CatScratch57 Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Celestia has no aura around her horn
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Pokebreeder25 Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2015  Student Traditional Artist
Isn't her magic aria soppose to be goldish not blue like Luna's 
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CatScratch57 Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
That could have been the magic of the spell celestial used, not necessarily her magic.
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PerfectBlue97 Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
She's in stealth mode.
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CatScratch57 Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
What does that mean?
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PerfectBlue97 Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It means that I didn't draw it in.

It's a screen shot form the show. The original animators never put it in and I didn't either.
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CatScratch57 Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Ah! Those guys are always making mistakes!
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CloudDashieART Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Celestia is an epic troll :l
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woodybg Featured By Owner Edited Jun 21, 2015
fine 
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PerfectBlue97 Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hey, hey, hey, this is a family friendly comic.
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woodybg Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2015
ok sry but she did do a dick move there 
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PixelBlujay Featured By Owner May 6, 2015
okay thats too much for u Tia
plz dont make Twilight paranoid again
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